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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 3:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Hm. If they can do long posts, maybe I can too... Reply with quote

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... And now to add my OWN input onto that point, I'd like to call your attention to another gimmick introduced in the Sonic games as of late, one that was meant to modernize and "extremify" Sonic, much like these guns are supposed to. ...


:( Me no like the "X-Treme" devs. Sonic has been taking.

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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 4:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought SA2 did a good job with the grinding actually, I didn't mind the fact that there were 2 stages dedicated pretty much to that idea. What I did mind was Heroes didn't make it at all interesting with the Bullet Station or whatever stage.

Meh, I just want an SA3. SA1 and 2 were fabulous in my eyes, and although I liked the stage concepts of Heroes for the most part, the team thing annoyed me. Why can't we just have a game inbetween SA2 and Heroes?
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Why can't we just have a game inbetween SA2 and Heroes?



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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

VJ, I said it before and I'll say it again, NAKA HAS NO INVOLVEMENT IN THIS GAME!!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 6:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who cares? That was a mightily amusing post :D
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Who cares? That was a mightily amusing post :D


It was amusing, but the point it's conveying was wrong.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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VJ, I said it before and I'll say it again, NAKA HAS NO INVOLVEMENT IN THIS GAME!!!!


oh come off it, it was a josh~

I'm sure he still has some say in it, regardless
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just replace the pic of Naka with whatever fucktard is in charge of this.

Moving swiftly on, it's really hard to say something about this game without echoing someone else's post. But this just makes Shadow look like a pathetic character. I was a little peeved with all the Shadow bashing just because his character was messed up in Heroes. SA2 explained him very well as a character, he was deep, he had reason, and his shoes were fucking cool. He actually had a backstory, compared to the rest of the cast. What is Sonic's backstory? He doesn't have one. he just shows up and plays the hero. Shadow had actual plot development. And then Heroes came along and gave him some absolutely pathetically weak lines "Who am I? Tell me! will I ever know!!??" etc.

I haven't played Sonic battle (I really should) but I have been watching subs of Sonic X, and they totally messed up Shadow's character in the 2 or 3 episodes I've seen so far of the SA2 adaption. He went from being this uncaring guy who was just there to get things done, and not piss around. All of a sudden he's jumping around like an idiot, and playing games with Sonic. What the crap?
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Sonic supposed to have a submarine in SA2, or so it was rumored? That seemed cool at the time...

Anyways, my interest is slightly peaked now. Aliens can fit in the Sonic universe, anyone recall the original Marble Zone? I was never really sure what to think of this game, but whatever. It could be good or bad. I'm for the idea of a game in-between SA2 and Heroes to tie things up. If Eggy's involved, anyone think we'll finally see what the hell was with those clones?

Also, my only real nitpick with Heroes was the characters, Sonic and Knux had retained their sass in the Adventure games but lost it completely thanks to their cheesy lines, Tails completely lost that sense of "proving himself", and Amy, who had wanted to earn Sonic's respect and, overall, just be part of his team, decides to beat the snot out of him to get him to marry her. (Of course, there was that little scene in the jail cell in SA2, but seriously...)

I don't care about plot, and I was fine with the gameplay and the levels, but they destroyed the things I loved most about those characters. (And the fact that I was able to tolerate Amy. ;_;)

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UFOs =/= aliens

Besides, that was something that most people missed in the game and was not tied to Sonic 1's plot.


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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Well, correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't Sonic supposed to have a submarine in SA2, or so it was rumored? ...




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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think Midopa was implying Sonic bats for the other time, as he has a submarine and is a sailor.





But I could be wrong :P
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Well Sonic can be homosexual too while Knux is looking for sailors.
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Chaotix Emerald is not the only one ramming his opinion down people's throats. Blaze also did the same thing and insulted anyone who is looking forward to it just because he doesn't like it. But you know how those things go sometimes.


Correction; Blaze was defending his opinion and responding to CE's claims.

Jolly Joes wrote:
UFOs =/= aliens

Besides, that was something that most people missed in the game and was not tied to Sonic 1's plot.


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Just replace the pic of Naka with whatever fucktard is in charge of this.




Jeeze. With his hair like that, and the glasses, he looks somewhat like Yuji Naka, doesn't he? For a second I was going to say, "Uh, JJ, that's not Iizuka..." I had to look at it for a second before it sank in.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2005 10:32 pm    Post subject: The coolest robot in the Galaxy! Reply with quote

Buh. Threads like this make me wonder if some of you guys came from Mugen Dev :p You guys type large posts.



If this game has the Super Robo Suit, it will own total allness. Because the Super Robo Suit is the Coolest Robot in the Galaxy!


Anyone who debates that is just...odd.


Whoever said all that is in this thread is speculation wins a terabyte of bonus points for almost defusing some of the thread.



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Well Sonic can be homosexual too while Knux is looking for sailors.


Knux is playing Ryo. =P
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On a side note...

Chaotix, I'm getting way too tired of your attitude about this subject. You're getting nasty without any warning or just based on the presumption of what we're going to say, without us even saying it, to the point where you seem to be STARTING arguments about it more than resolving them or explaining your viewpoint. Instead of, "I really think this has a chance to be good. I like the idea of multiple plotlines and endings, and this could mean a fresh playstyle for a Sonic spinoff," you burst in saying, ""OMG TEH SHADOW IS SUCK BECAUZE HE HAS GUN" You idiots can't see the genius in this!!" That's not appreciated by ANY stretch of the imagination. If you don't get that stick out of your arse, I do have the ability to Mod it out of there for you.


I haven't read the IGN post yet, although I think I got the same information from a GAF thread recently. I won't say much if there are indeed pictures of aliens I haven't seen yet, but I will say that at least I like the multiple plot/ending ideas, and the new batch of screenshots is better than the batch first released, and the video.
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2005 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Blah: awwwwww CE you're in trouble
CE: What did I do? "o_o"
Blah: http://www.mooglemb.com/viewtopic.php?t=18252&start=75
CE: Apparently, I'm going to be moded for expressing my opinion. ":D"
Blah: eh i think its your general air around you, you are kinda i dunno... expressive..... damn drama queen =p
Blah: He also says your starting arguments on presumptions but I dont agree with that
Blah: I read through your posts all your doing is responding to what everyones already said
Blah: I dont call that presumption, just replying to statements much like everyone was
CE: I think he just doesn't like me.
Blah: get off your soapbox some people tried to defend you
CE: People... DEFEND ME?! "O_O"
Blah: XD
CE: Well, look at Luckett. All he does is blather personal attacks and Sega angst, give maybe two convincing points per post.
CE: Scattered about the angst and personal attacks, of course. Why isn't he getting any mod threats? "=P"
CE: I respect Blaze's comments because he tried to reason and find common grounds, while expressing himself.
CE: He didn't get at me personally, just my points. He read my posts, and I respect that.
CE: As goes for SuitCase, hell he's an alright guy, I used to hate his guts. ":o"
Blah: maybe its because you got into an argument with JJ
CE: That's probably 90% of the reason. She's a she, and I didn't pissy foot around her.
CE: Actually, I don't have anything against her personally. But, she denounces my opinion and gives weak and fetle reasons. Pages later.
CE: I stopped reading her replies...
CE: She doesn't even read my posts, but selects which order she responds to them by quoting it section by section.
CE: She's not proving anything, and half her points are half-assed and even hypocritical. She just wants the last word in.
CE: She's a follower, who stands behind whatever the sexiest debater has to say. Someone said that, and that's a great analogy.
Blah: god forbid you give it to her? it'd make you seem less assholish :P
CE: But I'm not being assholish! I'm being me, unbiased by gender, I'm going to tell her why she was wrong.
CE: I even appologized if I somehow said "I HATE YOU AND HOPE YOU GET RAPED".
Blah: LMAO see, that's why your going to be banned
CE: Well, fuck it. But I didn't say that to her, I simply corrected her. I've seen her picture before, she actually looks kinda hot. ":o;"
Blah: maybe you should be more nice like
CE: In half of those posts I put in obvious rubbish that really needn't be said like "you hvae your opinion" and such and such...
CE: *have
CE: Actually, I'm glad I did, people jumped on me for shoving my opinion down people's throat, when I INFACT point that out...
CE: If anyone can be accused of shoving anything it's Luckett and Blaze. Atleast I made it clear that it was my opinion. =\
Blah: well be all ^_^ about it
CE: OH HELLO FRIENDS THIS IS MY OPINION ITS QUITE DIFFERENT FROM YOU PESSMISTIC SHADOW ANGSTING FUCKS, BUT HEAR ME OUT ^_^
Blah: your hopeless, poor CE
Blah: maybe he'll ban you silently
Blah: you made an excellent try though
Blah: you just weren't meant to exist on the internet
Blah: oh AND EVERYONE HATES YOU!!! ^_^
CE: He's going to stick his administrative hands up my ass looking for a stick of some kind. "@_o"
CE: Actually, accoding to most I'm being eternally optimistic. ":D"
CE: According*
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Blah: maybe you are but no one likes your opinion except a choice few who aren't taken seriously
Blah: you're just intellegent
Blah: and far too agressive to debate
CE: But... I wasn't being agressive... ":|;"
Blah: meh i dunno what to say
Blah: attitude wise you've always been like this so i dunno if he's trying to force regress you or what
Blah: you have a strong male form even though you use sissy words thus you're agressive in a scary way
Blah: intimidating bastard =p
Blah: on the plus side you have a high chance of being laid ^^
Blah: maybe you should claim to be homosexual?
CE: Yes, I'd like to pick up my baninated form, please.
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Blah: see you later space cowboy
CE: Shut up.
Blah: fix that attitude mr don't make me put on the admin gloves...that stick looks like its in there pretty deep
CE: Oh, bite me. "XDXDXDXDXDXD"
CE: *runs away*


Obviously, I said I wasn't going to say anything again, but this came up. As much as I LOVE being publicly denounced by the admin, I think it warrants me to say something. Even if it is my last, according to your ALMIGHTY proclamation. All I have to say is, don't bother. I'm leaving. If I can ignore this place for about four-five years, I can leave it permanently. It becomes especially easy when you're barred and threatened with administrative action, from expressing your opinion because I don't meet some unspoken social law of the board. In all of my posts, I explained in detail my view point despite what you say, you can read all the posts in this topic and the last one, I never personally attacked anyone or their opinions, and at the few points I did get "rough around the edges" I quickly corrected myself.

Not only did I express my thoughts, but I made it explicitly obvious that these thoughts pertain to my own opinions and assumptions based on what we know. And it's a safe guess, that so is everyone elses unless they own the game right now. So those that accuse me of "shoving" my opinion down your throat, read through a couple of Blaze, Luckett, Sz, ect. posts. And try and find a little line that says "in my opinion" or "these are just my thoughts", "based on what we know now", "this games future isn't set in stone" something along those lines. My opinion may be against the better tide, but I give my reasons and I don't blindly defend it. I've been fairly level headed, and I composed my reasons and stated why I think this way for this or that.

Originally, my come back post was going to be a cute little picture telling you all to deal with it. I'm starting to wish, I left it at that. But no, I decided to stay and give my reasons and hear out what you all have to say. It's very interesting actually, and as I said before, because Blaze was reasonable and attacked only my opinions, and not how absurd and stupid I must be for giving this a chance, I read through and found it a very interesting read. I still disagree with him, I still think this has a remote chance of turning out to be good, I still hold true to my own statements and opinions, but if it turns out wrong I was told so. My opinion isn't changing anytime soon. But he sympathized with me, and stated why he thinks this way. Not just tell me what an argumentive bastard I am. I think it's obvious I can go on forever about it until I agitate you enough to ban me, because my opinion is so different from your own. Some false accusations, a witty comment, you can sweep me out of here like yesterdays news. Which I am, to an extent. But if I have to go, or if I can't say anything because I'm too "attitude savy", so be it. I said what I needed to.
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Woah, something got blown horrificly out of proportion. Suitcase and Sab (among a few others) have a fucking topic telling them off from Ku - do you see them leaving? I'm not gonna lie, I think you've been pretty immature for a lot of this topic, and I'm pretty sure noone ever had a go at you for getting mad at JJ because she was a she - or at least, I don't recall that, it's possible I'm wrong.

My point is, Blah is right - you're being one helluva drama queen.
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And thank you for the personal attacks and the assumptions you have on me and other people here you some have a hidden grugde against all because we have different opinions about some stupid game.

Also, flattery will get you no where.

Though, I have to admit me posting this would probably be a waste since you admittablely stopped reading my posts. =<

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Awww, it almost feels as if we've lost a valuable respected community member.

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... I want Rocket Knight Adventures back. At least aliens would fit with that game. Vehicles even!

... Holly hell, actually this game sounds like a failure of a RKA game, just without the swords and jetpacks (jetshoes instead)!

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RKA/Sparkster's a Konami franchise, is it not?
It'd be a bit weird to ask Sega for the return - as much as I'd absolutely LOVE to see that, though.
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