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Squiggles the chao 
Disgruntled Child of Chaos
(9/21/02 11:59 pm)
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One Cream Cheese topic ain't enough (Tiny Chao Garden 2)
Watch out, I'm pulling a Kulock.
To be posted on chaofiles.com later tonight:
Sega.jp is reporting that (EEEEEEE! I can't bring myslef to say Tiny Chao Garden again! I must use the proper name!) Chao's Petit Garden will make a return in Sonic Advance 2. For those of you who don't know, I only really enjoyed one portable Chao outing, the origional Chao Adventure.What's worse, is that it's the EXACT SAME THING. Well, almost the same. so far the only thing that is known about it is that a linkage with Sonic Adventure 2 Battle will be enjoyed (eewwww). That means that it must stay within the set parameters of that system, forcing whatever Sonic game that comes out next to be compatable with that system, or another GBA game must be released shortly after.
Let's analyze this. The PS2 and X-Box will brobalby, for the first time in Chao history, be devoid of a portable game, unless some devient makes PS2<->GBA and XBOX<->GBA cables, thus invoking a lawsuit with Nintendo that will propably delay the release of the next game. Or the portable will be GCN only and grossly violate tradition. OR (dare I say it) Chao will be removed from he upcoming title.
However, let's say that Chao are in it, and the portable is GCN only. If it is a new game, as is the current rumor, there is little space to improve upon the current system, which I consider inadiquete, and inferior to the SA1 system. If it is a port SA1, the chances are great that the system will be totally reworked. Which will cause this crazy white boy fun into Sega's Tokyo offices (only a few blocks from the Asia Center of Japan), foaming at the mouth.
In any situation, a translator program may (but is not likely to) be implemented into the upcoming game to convert the stats between Chao's Petit Garden and the new game, causing my only beef with the entire situation to be that Chao's Petit Garden is being used again.
For me, the ideal situation would be to have a new Chao system in a new GBA game for the upcoming title. Failing that, I would like to have a RAM game (Like how you can play (Chao's petit garden without the SAdv cart through the RAM). Failing that, a VMU emulatior should be included in the new game.
The only possible advantage that I can see to reusing the Petit Garden is that maybe the character-Chao (Knuckles, Tails and Amy) can be purchased and put into SA2:B, giving it a few hours of replay value. If there was enough foresight, maybe you can raise Cheese in your garden, though this is unlikely, and if his character design was changed between the release of SA2:B and SAdv 2, the old character could be on thie disk, without anyone knowing (Of course that is until I find a way to get SA2:B into ResEdit, a PowerPC and 68k Macintosh resource editor for the Mac. SA2:B is written for the PowerPC).
Oh, and for those of you wanting another annoying Petit minigame, and those of you who were complaing about Cream being an edit of Amy's sprite:
Youir wish has been granted. This is the only kown diffrence between Petit 1 and Petit 2.
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ArtemusWolf
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Sonic characters existing
(9/22/02 12:03 am)
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Re: One Cream Cheese topic ain't enough (Tiny Chao Garden 2)
The Chao Gardens are based off of a fast-dying trend. Sure, the Chao are cute, but nobody wants to tend for some little creature on the side of playing their game anymore. Hell, the trend should have died two years ago.
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Squiggles the chao
Disgruntled Child of Chaos
(9/22/02 12:09 am)
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Re: One Cream Cheese topic ain't enough (Tiny Chao Garden 2)
No, I won't hear it. I hated all other Virtual Pets (which dies as a trend many, many more than 2 years ago). I can't stand Pikmin. But Chao, at least in SA1, are great. Do not argue or I will crush you with a wave of slightly-illogical evangelism!
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Kulock 
...So... much writing...
(9/22/02 4:59 am)
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Re: One Cream Cheese topic ain't enough (Tiny Chao Garden 2)
NOT LONG ENOUGH FOR A KULOCK POST! ;P
Anyway, there were NGPC/DC link cables (although Sega was supporting the NGPC as a third party at the time), but there was also a Gameboy/DC link cable in the works. Microsoft's also supporting the development of GBA games (I think via T-HQ, what is it with prominent companies using one of the most crap development houses in gaming history lately?). So a GBA/Xbox linkup could happen, unless Nintendo gets really picky now that they're heavily pushing the GBA link for their console (they weren't previously, NGP sort of plowed the way for that, with the exception of Pokémon Stadium).
Although the Xbox and PS2 versions will probably just recreate the elements that don't already exist in the garden normally into 3D in the next major game, and not worry about portability.
And the Xbox version will get 16 extra Chao types because Sega just does that. ("Soccer Slam is designed as a GC exclus- oh, it sold? Quickly, port it and add new teams!")
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Invader Keith 
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(9/22/02 12:59 pm)
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Re: One Cream Cheese topic ain't enough (Tiny Chao Garden 2)
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NOT LONG ENOUGH FOR A KULOCK POST! ;P
True dat.
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Squiggles the chao
Disgruntled Child of Chaos
(9/22/02 1:22 pm)
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Re: One Cream Cheese topic ain't enough (Tiny Chao Garden 2)
I know, I was going to make it longer, with more conspiracy theories, but I figured everyone would thik that I was crazy.
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And the Xbox version will get 16 extra Chao types because Sega just does that.
I would HANG myslef if that heppened.
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Edweirdo
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(9/22/02 4:47 pm)
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Re: One Cream Cheese topic ain't enough (Tiny Chao Garden 2)
Actually Ku, THQ is doing a smashing job with their Sega brand games. Lets hope the Microsoft games will be as good.
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Andrusi 
Farewell, ezBoard.
(9/22/02 5:11 pm)
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I hereby give up on my quest to find a topic regarding Chao in upcoming Sonic games that isn't just one side screaming "This sucks! This isn't what Chao should be!" versus the other side screaming "This sucks! Chao shouldn't exist!"
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Kulock
...So... much writing...
(9/22/02 7:58 pm)
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"Actually Ku, THQ is doing a smashing job with their Sega brand games."
Anything I've seen them program so far for the GBA (program, not Sonic Advance, which all they did was slap their name on and distribute in America) has looked... well... extremely crap. Yes, yes, I have only seen videos, but both Altered Beast and Shinobi looked TERRIBLE. Shinobi looked incredibly stiff and awkward for a ninja with some graphics that are supposed to be nice, but something just doesn't work, and Altered Beast... well, even compared to the source games, that looks worse. That's mainly what I know of T-HQ doing for Sega, other than Smash Pack Vol. 1 for GBA.
So if you mean "smashing job" as in "smashing your GBA after purchasing such T-HQish efforts", then I can see what you mean. But I've had years and years of witnessing T-HQ's efforts and they still haven't improved. If they hadn't stumbled over a few wrestling games to port over and convert for American wrestling and hit a strong niche market, T-HQ would probably be dead now, and I wish they were.
Not that I hold any malace or anything. :P
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Squiggles the chao
Disgruntled Child of Chaos
(9/22/02 10:20 pm)
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I hereby give up on my quest to find a topic regarding Chao in upcoming Sonic games that isn't just one side screaming "This sucks! This isn't what Chao should be!" versus the other side screaming "This sucks! Chao shouldn't exist!"
Blame Sonic Team for making the new system inferior to the old one.
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Andrusi
Farewell, ezBoard.
(9/23/02 10:42 am)
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See? That's exact--
...aw, never mind.
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Jamie SwiftRunner 
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royal pain in the @$$
(9/23/02 3:41 pm)
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<i>The Chao Gardens are based off of a fast-dying trend. Sure, the Chao are cute, but nobody wants to tend for some little creature on the side of playing their game anymore. Hell, the trend should have died two years ago. </i>
I like chao and still think they'er fun o_o A few of my friends still activiely raise them too. They'er not like other virtual pets, these guys actually have some personality, and they DON'T POOP! Although with my SA2 short lease.. *mumbles at all her friends with SA2B chao*
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