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Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 12:42 am Post subject: |
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Freakazoid and possibly Swat Kats cameos would be the ultimate redeeming factor, IMO.



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Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 1:02 am Post subject: |
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Swat Kats cameos would redeem anything. I'd watch freaking As Told By Ginger if there were Swat Kats cameos.



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Posted: Tue Feb 22, 2005 2:18 am Post subject: |
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| In fact, forget the Loonatics, just more Swat Kats would be fine. |
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Posted: Thu Feb 24, 2005 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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That's because you're not spelling it correctly.



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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 5:57 am Post subject: |
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| H Hog wrote: | Like I said before - it heavily reminds me of "PK", that Superhero overhaul they gave Donald Duck in an ill-fated comic series which had a spinoff game on Gamecube several years later. =o
And I LIKED that. =o |
I HOPE you refer to Donald PK in a whole, and not to the game, which plain SUCKED X__X
Yeah, i remember buying the 2 comics they made about Pk..
Were pretty cool, but to complicated for me to understand what the hell was going on, heh ^^;
And in these Donald duck pockets, they also use Pk, only an EXTREMELY more dull version ,by the name of Super Donald.. The ultimate crime fighter.
Everytime there is danger afoot, he pushes a button and some mechanism fixes the problem.. how heroic
Hope the loonatics actually fight themselves, and don't just stand there, having some machinery/ pokemon/ monster cards to solve their battles or anything
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H Hog Snap back to insanity
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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 6:12 am Post subject: |
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Yeah, I meant the comic. ;P
The game was.... bleh.



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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 12:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Roger_Imp wrote: | | H Hog wrote: | Like I said before - it heavily reminds me of "PK", that Superhero overhaul they gave Donald Duck in an ill-fated comic series which had a spinoff game on Gamecube several years later. =o
And I LIKED that. =o |
I HOPE you refer to Donald PK in a whole, and not to the game, which plain SUCKED X__X
Yeah, i remember buying the 2 comics they made about Pk..
Were pretty cool, but to complicated for me to understand what the hell was going on, heh ^^;
And in these Donald duck pockets, they also use Pk, only an EXTREMELY more dull version ,by the name of Super Donald.. The ultimate crime fighter.
Everytime there is danger afoot, he pushes a button and some mechanism fixes the problem.. how heroic
Hope the loonatics actually fight themselves, and don't just stand there, having some machinery/ pokemon/ monster cards to solve their battles or anything |
Okay, so I never heard of Donald PK so I googled and I got this:
this:
and this: http://www.apecollection.com/FOTO/Feves/deagostini_9_paperinik.jpg
...which is pretty goofy, but it doesn't seem as bad as Loonitics.

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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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Well they've always been trying to somehow update classic characters to attract new audiences and catch on popular marketting trends. I mean in the 80s, there was that trend to make kid/baby versions of popular characters like Flintstone Kids, Muppet Babies, and Tiny Toons. And now the big trend is to try to make them edgy and and a bit darker, and sometimes incorperating some sort of anime-ism. It's working for the ninja turtles (though then again, the orignal ninja turtles comic books were dark), so it may work for the Loonatics. Of course one thing that shows like Tiny Toons, and later Animanics, had going for them was that they were produced by Stephen Spielburg. Also, I never really cared much for Swat Kats. But I'd rather just wait and see how it'll play out. Proabably in the end it won't really matter much for me, since I don't watch much tv anyways. As long as this doesn't make Disney want to make some darker extreme versions of their characters, I'll think we'll be good.

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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 1:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Toxic wrote: | | And now the big trend is to try to make them edgy and and a bit darker, and sometimes incorperating some sort of anime-ism. It's working for the ninja turtles (though then again, the orignal ninja turtles comic books were dark), so it may work for the Loonatics. |
Except that Loony Tunes in general were never dark--in the serious sense.
Also, all baby-fied/kiddie-fied shows suck except for Muppet Babies. I don't count Tiny Toons in the genre since they were completely original characters that were inspired by LT.

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Posted: Sat Feb 26, 2005 1:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Toxic wrote: | | Well they've always been trying to somehow update classic characters to attract new audiences and catch on popular marketting trends. I mean in the 80s, there was that trend to make kid/baby versions of popular characters like Flintstone Kids, Muppet Babies, and Tiny Toons. And now the big trend is to try to make them edgy and and a bit darker, and sometimes incorperating some sort of anime-ism. It's working for the ninja turtles (though then again, the orignal ninja turtles comic books were dark), so it may work for the Loonatics. Of course one thing that shows like Tiny Toons, and later Animanics, had going for them was that they were produced by Stephen Spielburg. Also, I never really cared much for Swat Kats. But I'd rather just wait and see how it'll play out. Proabably in the end it won't really matter much for me, since I don't watch much tv anyways. As long as this doesn't make Disney want to make some darker extreme versions of their characters, I'll think we'll be good. |
Yeah, but the new TMNT is awesome because it's not just a "darker makeover". It's a show ment to stand on it's own merits, and was billed as "The return of the TMNT" rather than "a re-inventing of the TMNT". It's what the TMNT was always created to be, and honestly, looking back at the old cartoon... I think it's kind of embarassing compared to the new one, at least, from what I've seen on an old VHS I have.
Most people probably don't remember, but the old 1980's version of the TMNT cartoon _did_ get a "Darker" Makeover in 1994 (or was it in 1996?), possibly to hop on the "dark cartoons" Bandwagon (Batman:TAS, Gargoyles, etc). It was absolutely abysmal. I think it lasted six total episodes before it was pulled off the air (two or three episodes were never aired). I remember as a kid, I hated it. Animation quality was a lot lower and all the characters... well, they were just terrible.
The TMNT were even given "dark circles" around their eyes to signify how much more "mature" the show was.
If you dig around TMNT fansites, you can even find images of this ill-fated revamp. (Kiddo?)

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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 1:55 am Post subject: |
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Time to pull an Andy:
Well, I'm the guy who likes AoStH, so I guess it's fate for me to like the old TMNT too.
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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 2:05 am Post subject: |
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I'd like to point out that Loonatics is only an alternate reality type of show. The original, classic Looney Toons characters will remain and they will NOT be going away. Loonatics is just a seperate, stand-alone show on the side, it will NOT replace Looney Toons. There's nothing wrong with it as far as I've seen and I'm hoping it turns out well.
http://news.toonzone.net/image.php?imageID=92&___r=%2Farticle.php%3FID%3D1733
This poster art, previously posted seems ok, I could see it working.
These characters are NOT the original charcters, instead, the concept is that these characters are the decendants of the originals, who all have their own names and personalities. Sounds good to me personally, I think the show stands a chance of being pretty good. More info at: http://news.toonzone.net/article.php?ID=1788
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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 2:59 am Post subject: |
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Why do the Looney Tunes need desendents, in the first place? Why couldn't WB create original characters that has nothing to do with LT if they wanted to do a dark action show?
Also, Warner Bros. seem to like controversy seeing they hardly mention that they are the LT desendents in interviews. They always proclaim that these are the Looney Tunes, 'reimagined, redsigned for today's kid audience'. By doing that they have recieved some negative reactions from the public--even from the demo they are trying to target with this show. But I guess it is like they say: even bad publicity is good publicity--or something like that.
Besides their sentai designs suck anyway.

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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 6:18 am Post subject: |
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| Jolly Joes wrote: | | But I guess it is like they say: even bad publicity is good publicity--or something like that. |
*Any publicity is good publicity. Or at least I think that's what it is.
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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 4:30 pm Post subject: |
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| Perfect Chaos Zero wrote: | I'd like to point out that Loonatics is only an alternate reality type of show. The original, classic Looney Toons characters will remain and they will NOT be going away. Loonatics is just a seperate, stand-alone show on the side, it will NOT replace Looney Toons. There's nothing wrong with it as far as I've seen and I'm hoping it turns out well.
http://news.toonzone.net/image.php?imageID=92&___r=%2Farticle.php%3FID%3D1733
This poster art, previously posted seems ok, I could see it working.
These characters are NOT the original charcters, instead, the concept is that these characters are the decendants of the originals, who all have their own names and personalities. Sounds good to me personally, I think the show stands a chance of being pretty good. More info at: http://news.toonzone.net/article.php?ID=1788 |
Building on what JJ said, Many seem to think that if enough push is put forth, that these characters will permanently represent the Looney Toons as their official, primary forms (perhaps the old ones will be refered to as "The Classic Looney Toons", instead). That is, unless the show falls flat on it's ass hard enough to where they can't possibly think the Loonatics are a success.

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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 8:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Jolly Joes wrote: | Why do the Looney Tunes need desendents, in the first place? Why couldn't WB create original characters that has nothing to do with LT if they wanted to do a dark action show?
Also, Warner Bros. seem to like controversy seeing they hardly mention that they are the LT desendents in interviews. They always proclaim that these are the Looney Tunes, 'reimagined, redsigned for today's kid audience'. By doing that they have recieved some negative reactions from the public--even from the demo they are trying to target with this show. But I guess it is like they say: even bad publicity is good publicity--or something like that.
Besides their sentai designs suck anyway. |
While I sincerely hope that the WB does not permaneantly replace the LT, I also doubt it will happen. Loonatics will probably be cool and the idea of them being the descendants of the LT isn't that bad IMO. Although I agree that I don't like the idea of them being reimagined.
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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 9:14 pm Post subject: |
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It was early in the morning and I'm a terrible speller. I just don't like the idea of the Looney Tunes having future children unless it is a one-time gag that is really funny.

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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 9:35 pm Post subject: |
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You know, "descendants" might not necessarily be meant in the sense that they are, in canon, the actual descendants of the characters. It might be meant in more of an evolutionary sense.



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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 10:29 pm Post subject: |
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I totally don't see the anime theme in Loonatics. o_o

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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 11:25 pm Post subject: |
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| Sofox wrote: | | Ed wrote: | | I totally don't see the anime theme in Loonatics. o_o |
Maybe because everyone just associates dark setting and well animated action with Animé.
Heck, I read something where somone says Kim Possible looked like it was influenced by Animé. |
These people seem to have forgotten about a show called Batman: The Animated Series where this dark, angulated style of American animation as seen in Gargoyles, Batman Beyond, and now Loonitics seem to originate from.
Also that person who said KP's style was influnence by anime was a fool. It looks more like the post-80's Hanna-Barbera simplistic style that was seen in Two Stupid Dogs, Dexter's Lab, and PPG.

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Posted: Sun Feb 27, 2005 11:57 pm Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Most people probably don't remember, but the old 1980's version of the TMNT cartoon _did_ get a "Darker" Makeover in 1994 (or was it in 1996?), possibly to hop on the "dark cartoons" Bandwagon (Batman:TAS, Gargoyles, etc). It was absolutely abysmal. I think it lasted six total episodes before it was pulled off the air (two or three episodes were never aired). I remember as a kid, I hated it. Animation quality was a lot lower and all the characters... well, they were just terrible. |
Actually, the "Red Sky" episodes of TMNT lasted a bit longer than that. 3 seasons if I recall (although the seasons themselves were only 8 episodes each - much shorter than standard TMNT seasons.) And it didn't get canned right away, either - it went on until CBS decided to "Uber-kiddify" their block with game shows for kids and crap.
The most notable differences between the "Red Sky" episodes and the old ones included:
- A red sky (Durr. That's where it's name came from.)
- the Ninja Turtles having smaller eyes. (their bandannas no longer cover all the skin between.)
- plot devices such as: Carter the guy who randomly goes mutant, Ninja Turtles randomly turning into crazed uber-mutant beasts attacking the city, the Channel 6 building being blown to bits, Shredder and Krang being absent for most of the series, being replaced by "Dregg", a more generic action show villain, and a few other filler villains.
As for the quality of the Red Sky episodes themselves, it's debatable. If you want to see some of them, 4 of the episodes from the final season of TMNT are in the TMNT: Season One DVD. Sadly, however, they're not in the correct order, damn you, Artisan. (aw, well. At least we're getting Season 2.)
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Posted: Mon Feb 28, 2005 3:29 am Post subject: |
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Mona Lisa only showed up in the later CBS episodes, but not the "Red Sky" season, right? I remember that CBS had a slightly different continuity of sorts going (different production values too, I think) simultaneously with what FOX was airing.
I haven't watched a ton of the new TMNT, but when I tune in, it sometimes impresses me. I was particularly shocked at them actually attempting to follow (and doing a pretty good job of sticking to it) the Honeycutt/Triceraton (pardon misnaming) arc, that was the main feature of the only original TMNT book I owned. (Original as in the the Eastman/Laird version, with violence and a showering April.) Casey's played as pretty stupid, though, when he was pretty bad-ass in the original tv series, to my recollection. |
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