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BlazeHedgehog
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(9/25/02 2:43 am)
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Rare on Xbox: Commence PD Bastardization
Rare Exec: "What's that new fangled things all the kids like?"
Rare PR: "Anime, sir."
Rare Exec: "Righto, then, I want this 'ANNIE-MAY' stuff in my games. Now."
http://xbox.ign.com/articles/371/371977p1.html
Once short haired, and brunette, our lovely Joanna Dark becomes a buxom red-haired anime-babe.
And for those of you claiming franchises like Banjo Kazooie were Nintendo's? Not according to Microsoft's Announcement video they're not...
http://www.xbox.com/cms/asx/news/rareannouncement-0001-Hi.asx
"IGN has confirmation that Microsoft will now own all of the intellectual properties previously owned by Rare including Perfect Dark, Banjo Kazooie, Jet Force Gemini, Conker, Killer Instinct, Blast Corps and Sabre Wulf."
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Squiggles the chao 
Disgruntled Child of Chaos
(9/25/02 9:09 am)
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And for those of you claiming franchises like Banjo Kazooie were Nintendo's? Not according to Microsoft's Announcement video they're not...
Yes, it has already ben reported that Rare kept Banjo-Kazooie, Conquer and Perfect Dark.
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ArtemusWolf
One of the only original
Sonic characters existing
(9/25/02 4:07 pm)
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And now the world truly goes to hell.
No explanation needed. Shayla-Shayla just kicks ass. |
Edweirdo
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(9/25/02 8:58 pm)
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Hahaha, Blaze would probably bash Celda for it's Cel-Shaded effects if it was on the X-Box.
I'll just play TimeSplitters 2. Perfect Dark 0 should of went with that style.
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BlazeHedgehog
As Anti-PS2 as they come
(9/25/02 9:04 pm)
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What the hell are you smoking? I did bash Cel-da. I'm sure it'll be a great and fantastic game, and I'm looking forward to it -- but it could have been that WITHOUT looking the way it does.
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Sz 3 
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all you n00 hot pocket base
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(9/25/02 9:16 pm)
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Whoop, and Ed stumbles into a silly comment. ;P
And yes. That stinks. But oh well. I would've have bought any of those games, regardless the system. Not currently anyway
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Edweirdo
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(9/25/02 10:28 pm)
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Well, Perfect Dark will be a great game. Regardless of it's new style. (Couldn't care less, there's a lot of Sci Fi FPSers with real-style graphics anyways.)
And Szhut up. (Haha. I added your name to "Shut up" I'm so witty.)
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Matsuriku 
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sprites, Matrixx!
(9/25/02 10:49 pm)
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ARTEMUS: I just don't know why the hell they had to change the model of Joanna; it looked perfectly fine the way it was. Now it just looks like that wannabe anime crap you see in comic book stores everywhere. Y'know, the stuff that tries to look like anime, but still uses American comic techniques, so it just ends up looking stupid?
EDIT: Dammit, Matrixx has to start logging out of his damn account.
  Edited by: Matsuriku at: 9/25/02 10:51:32 pm
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BlazeHedgehog
As Anti-PS2 as they come
(9/25/02 11:46 pm)
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Now it just looks like that wannabe anime crap you see in comic book stores everywhere. Y'know, the stuff that tries to look like anime, but still uses American comic techniques, so it just ends up looking stupid?
My sentiments exactly. Not to mention Joanna's changes were obviously done to make her sexier. From her hip wiggles in the announcement video (which SUCKED btw), to her now skin-tight shiney spandex suit, to her now -RED- hair, it's obvious Rare went through and wrote "MAKE IT LOOK DEAD OR ALIVE 3" all over Perfect Dark's character designs.
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Scott Prower 
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(9/25/02 11:51 pm)
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Let's kill them.
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HEDGESMFG 
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(9/26/02 2:15 am)
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I didn't watch the video....but does she look "Shorter" now?
This is clearly a bad attempt for Microsoft to appeal to the japanese market me-thinks....and this only makes me fear what Microsoft will do to THE REST of the gaming market and developers.
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I AM THE BEST CHARACTER OF THEM ALL! I AM BETTER THEN ALL THE SA2B CHARACTERS COMBIND!
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SkahottKun
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(9/26/02 9:17 am)
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I think she looks pretty good. You call it crappy 'Wannabe Anime' yet most of the people here draw 'Wannabe Anime' so... ;P
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GS68 
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(9/26/02 9:32 am)
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CURSE YOU MICROSOFT! CURSE YYYYYYYYOOOOOOUUUUUU!!!!!!!!!11111
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NeroMan
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(9/26/02 9:46 am)
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oh well.
1. Rare does not read this mesage board.
2. So how many of you have played that game? Moaning about this stylistic change is just as bad as moaning about the stylistic change with Zelda.
So Jo is a psudo-anime-chick now. I don't mind because I happen to like hot girls. So it might not be the same style as the other Perfect Dark, it -is- a new system. If I wanted the same style as Perfect Dark, i'd play more Perfect Dark, and maybe GoldenEye.
You wanna complain about something Perfect D, go whine about the Gameboy Color game.
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Kulock 
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(9/26/02 10:37 am)
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I tried to raw download that announcement video (since I can't stream it), but couldn't get it to work like I did the Sonic video (and a few others I've tried since then). Since it's apparently not a big deal to do so for others (judging from a few remarks in the Sonic Mega Collection video topic I posted), has anyone else had any luck saving the stream file? I think it should be 8.4 Meg...
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I think she looks pretty good. You call it crappy 'Wannabe Anime' yet most of the people here draw 'Wannabe Anime' so... ;P
There's a difference, at least in how it's defined here. Most people here _want_ to draw in the anime style. Some may be better or worse at it than others, but the methods and design concepts they want to use are usually based strongly on it. I think the "Wannabe" refers to how some companies "convert" something to anime. American companies (Rare's European, but I don't know how often it occurs over there), especially the smaller ones, are notorious for trying to pawn off something as "anime" when it looks more like it was drawn in American style then they attempted an "upgrade" to anime, rather than designed the character from the start in that style. It's just something you pick up on after seeing it a lot, I probably haven't described it well.
Usually you can tell it's Wannabe if it was changed to anime-style specifically for marketing reasons because the same thing wouldn't sell in American style. Jo Dark just got turned into a busty caricature of herself, and I assume it was done because of a marketing decision, not because it was always the PD creator's desire (judging from what I've read of their opinions and sense of humor). Miyamoto decided to change the Zelda stye, but it wasn't because of marketing. It's because he can be a looney at times. There's the difference. ;P (Anyone who says "It's always been like that" did not understand the limitations of NES programming and sprites. But not to dig that whole argument up again.)
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Edweirdo
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(9/26/02 4:00 pm)
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Boo-hellish-hoo. I'd rather see a Anime style FPSer then another generic "Realistic" FPSer. It's nothing worth bitching about.
So Jo-Anime-Dark is sexy now, whoopity doo. Don't be such panzys. How about complaining about Beach Spikers? Or that Peach has an actual chest in Melee?
Now that I think of it. Didn't they show like half of Jo's breasts in the PD commercial?
SAME ED TIME, SAME ED PLACE!!Edited by: Edweirdo at: 9/26/02 4:41:52 pm
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Scott Prower
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(9/26/02 4:47 pm)
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Why are you two screaming bloody murder towards Microsoft? Do you think that within a@day, after NO word about Perfect Dark 0 at all from Rare, Microsoft got them to create the character design, just like that? Not bloody likely. Rare would've had this in the works, be it GameCube or Xbox, I'd say.
Koosh.Edited by: Scott Prower at: 9/26/02 4:59:33 pm
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Kulock
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(9/26/02 5:14 pm)
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"I'd rather see a Anime style FPSer"
IX, or was it XIII? But either way, I suppose that's more "animation" styled than anime.
"then another generic "Realistic" FPSer."
PD was far from generic. :P Having an alien seriously named "Elvis" in the game is pretty definitive.
"So Jo-Anime-Dark is sexy now, whoopity doo."
Some people thought she was before, and now she's just joined the rack (pun initially unintended) of Xbox characters that all have massive chests. In comparison to any other console, even PS2, the Xbox has gotten an extreme amount of games using characters or elements of characters as "hormone fodder" in a very short amount of time. It's unnerving Jo Dark took the next step. And yes, Scott, this was planned for a while, but not only had they already resigned themselves to working on Xbox and just couldn't say, so they've had time to redefine it to what they want to sell, we're just a bit surprised at what they want to sell, considering the old Jo Dark had a very different character design. It doesn't quite seem like Rare's usual ways to change like that, especially in that way.
"Don't be such panzys. How about complaining about Beach Spikers? Or that Peach has an actual chest in Melee?"
Peach had a lot of things in Melee she immediately lost in Sunshine, Mario Party 4, and probably any other game coming out now.
Besides, there's your examples, you can probably work out a few, a few more. Then start naming off similar characters on the Xbox. One number will be significantly larger, guess which one. I'm not suggesting it's some grand Microsoft conspiracy, it's just... well, they're making it comfy for game designers to sell games with those factors, that's for sure. I know it happened before, but it's happening all the time with Xbox stuff. :P Finding a flat-chested Xbox heroine would be one tiring quest, I assure you... (Maybe the Panzer Dragoon Orta girl, who is also just a teen girl...)
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SkahottKun
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(9/26/02 5:36 pm)
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Have you guys even seen the original PD0 Models?!
When I saw those I thought I was looking at N64 models!
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Edweirdo
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(9/26/02 5:48 pm)
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XII is based on a French Comic book, not a Anime.
And by "Generic" I ment the other five thousand FPSers that use photos of people's faces on models. (Or other ways)
And Kulock, a lot of Video Game Females has huge chests.
And I'm not going to name a flat chested female on a X-Box game. That isn't the point.
And I don't care if Peach lost her Melee err.. "Stuff" I still don't see you guys WHIIINE about her body figure in Melee.
So QUIT WHINEING, WHINERS. When I see you post complaining about a video game's "Sexy-ness" I think of you as little children going "Ewww... Boobies!" It's annoying, specially when you complain about this because it's on the X-Box. (Admit it. Fanbitches.)
SAME ED TIME, SAME ED PLACE!!Edited by: Edweirdo at: 9/26/02 6:02:36 pm
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Ajimage Sestrenegade 
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(9/26/02 6:11 pm)
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What exactly does Microsoft have to do with this?
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