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BlazeHedgehog
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(9/26/02 6:40 pm)
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1. Rare does not read this mesage board.

You've been using this alot in arguments, and I must say, what the hell does THAT matter? We're entitled to voice our opinions. 'cause, you know, that's what they are? opinions? It generates discussion, and discussion is what messageboards are about... yeah?

Without discussion, why would we even BE here?

Skahott, you obviously need glasses (or, if you already wear them, STRONGER glasses - not to mention the pictures themselves are ALREADY generally fuzzy thanks to someone snapping photos of a TV screen with a digicam) - I see nothing wrong with those old PD models, aside from the fact Ms. Dark resembles Lara Croft. They're not low-poly, they don't contain low-res textures, they look just fine -- and only help to inforce my argument that somewhere between taking PD0 from the 'Cube to the Xbox someone decided to inflate Jo's chest 3x and "Anime-ize" her.

When I see you post complaining about a video game's "Sexy-ness" I think of you as little children going "Ewww... Boobies!" It's annoying, specially when you complain about this because it's on the X-Box.

I've already WELL explained my reasoning about this -- and it's like Kulock said, the reason why we complain about it all being on the Xbox is because _IT IS_. Every time you turn around there's another new game with some chick with 34DD breasts shoving them in your face! Wether it's Latisha from TJ&E3, the Dead or Alive XBV girls, Joanna Dark, The star of "Chase: Hollywood Stunt Driver", the women of Brute Force - or whoever else, Xbox games seem to be much more chesty than the other two consoles.

I'm not saying "Ewww... Boobies!" -- quite the contrary. But, like other genres, the "Videogame Porn" genre is wandering out of it's "Choose your Own Adventure" and "Press a Button to Advance the Image Gallery" games into REAL GAMES, and I fear it's doing things for the worse. Like I said back on MoogleMB when Ryoga posted about more DOAXBV shots, I fear that games with more sex appeal than gameplay will become the RULE, not the EXCEPTION, and that I'll have to wade through countless copies of "GIRLS GONE WILD VOLLEYBALL 24 SPECIAL EDITION" and "PAMALA ANDERSON'S BMX XXX 5" before I find a real game to play, and then fear taking it up to the counter, because instead of buying PORN GAMES like every other brain-dead teenage-male on the face of this earth, I bought a REAL game, with REAL gameplay -- only to be given a funny look by the pimple-faced pre-pubescent dork behind the counter, the look like "You're a 19 year old man, and you're buying a shopping basket full of barbies and pre-school kids stuff? What the hell is wrong with you?"

Er, okay, maybe I went abit too far on that. But the point still remains, I myself am just worried these glorified porn games are going to take over the industry, to the point where that's ALL THAT EXISTS. (Speaking of which, the EGM Preview of Beach Volleyball talks like you most likely don't even get to play as the girls after all -- returning the game to nothing more than a fancy, highly customizable, screensaver. There goes your "IT MIGHT HAVE COOL GAMEPLAY REALLY" argument)

And I don't care if Peach lost her Melee err.. "Stuff" I still don't see you guys WHIIINE about her body figure in Melee.

That's because Peach wasn't in a shiney skin-tight catsuit, nor was she bouncing around a volleyball court. She was in her standard Royal, Pink, Dress. She just happened to... fill it out nicely, is all.

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SkahottKun
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(9/26/02 7:50 pm)
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Blaze, you're just being biased. There's nothing wrong with the women from TJ&E3, Brute Force, etc...

Maybe you don't like good looking women, which I find hard to believe with your Sage 'babes' and the infamous 'camel-toe' picture.



BlazeHedgehog
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(9/26/02 8:04 pm)
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There's that remarkablely intelligent Skahott wit I so love! "LOL FURRE PORN PENNY ARCADE SEZ IT'S GEY WTF U SMELL IM SOO COOL"

Y'know. It's a Sonic Expo. You see. They tie in together? Yeah? Amazing. Who'd have thought that! I mean, let's try not to keep any semblence of orginzation or try anything that matches or, well anything! Hey, I know, how about Next SAGE, I have a big picture of MARIO on the front page, yeah? And inside, you know, I could have a few dancing AniGifs of SPONGEBOB SQUARE PANTS in a SPEEDO!

'cause, you know, it's a Sonic Expo! Who would have ever thought FURRIES would have fit in well?

Obviously not you and your razor sharp intelligence.

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SkahottKun
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(9/26/02 8:16 pm)
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I can see furries but naked furries featuring giant breasts and all that? Being turned on by a toon is bad, but ANIMAL TOONS?


By the way, I hate Penny Arcade, so you can take your elitist @#%$ and park it.



Edited by: SkahottKun at: 9/26/02 8:18:49 pm
BlazeHedgehog
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(9/26/02 8:20 pm)
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Edit: I'm wording this better.

Forgive me for trying to do sex appeal -- 'cause you know, E3? TGS? Boothbabes are ment to be Sexy. Just 'cause you got issues with that kinda thing don't mean you have to piss and moan to me about it -- it's part of the Expo Experience, and has been for a long time.

Let's Recap, shall we?

Boothbabes = Sexy
Sonic = Furries

Boothbabes + Sonic = Sexy Furries.

Take notes, this'll be on the test.

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Edited by: BlazeHedgehog at: 9/26/02 8:25:32 pm
MagiSonic 
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(9/26/02 8:23 pm)
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*gets bag of popcorn*


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SkahottKun
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(9/26/02 8:37 pm)
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Okay, I'll put it into words you understand.

Women = Sexy
Joanna Dark = Women

Men Like Women.
Men Play Videogames.

Men Like Women and Videogames

Men Like Women IN Videogames

If you don't have a problem with animals getting jiggy with it I don't see why you have a problem with Joanna getting some curves.



MagiSonic 
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(9/26/02 8:43 pm)
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I don't think Skahott got the point of Blaze's argument, but then again, he probably did, and I'm just being a dumbass.

Carry on.


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BlazeHedgehog
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(9/26/02 8:43 pm)
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'cause she had plenty of curves before. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it.", as they say.

But, nope, they had to "cash in" on the big "Anime craze" by playing me-too. Rare WAS better than that. But now they're basically as good as every other "Me-too" developer on the market.

If they're playing "Me-too" with the character designs, who knows what else they're me-tooing?

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SkahottKun
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(9/26/02 8:51 pm)
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You think maybe Rare did it to appeal to Japan, and not the 14 year old anime-bopping losers here?



Edweirdo
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(9/26/02 8:57 pm)
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Dude, it's just Anime style.

Sci Fi FPSer: Good
Anime FPSer: Never happened
Sci Fi Anime FPSer: A Great thing.


SAME ED TIME, SAME ED PLACE!!

BlazeHedgehog
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(9/26/02 8:57 pm)
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Why would they need to, though? They could have left it the way it was. I doubt this change will effect how the game sells in Japan. It's not like they'll all go "WOW IT LOOKS LIKE ANIME I'LL BUY IT". Hell, as sites like engrish.com have shown us -- Japanese are as fascinated with American Culture and phrasings as we are with theirs, therefore, the old style might've actually sold BETTER.

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Edweirdo
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(9/26/02 9:09 pm)
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Perhaps they wanted to do this from the start? Or better yet, perhaps they always wanted PD too be a Anime style game? (But due to hardware and the blah dee bloh.)

Now, you like Anime, right? And you liked Perfect Dark, right? Then why the hell should you kick and scream about it?


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HappyHappySI
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(9/26/02 9:14 pm)
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This is gettin' good.
*grabs some of MagiSonic's popcorn*
I agree with Blaze more than Skahott, but I'll stay out of this.
*slurps some soda*

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BlazeHedgehog
As Anti-PS2 as they come
(9/26/02 9:16 pm)
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Ed, since you obviously completely missed my post, allow me to repeat it:

'cause she had plenty of curves before. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it.", as they say.

But, nope, they had to "cash in" on the big "Anime craze" by playing me-too. Rare WAS better than that. But now they're basically as good as every other "Me-too" developer on the market.

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SkahottKun
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(9/26/02 9:25 pm)
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Oh no, the person with the Megaman sprite comic doesn't agree with me. Oh woe is me.



HappyHappySI
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(9/26/02 9:31 pm)
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Ed, I didn't mean it offensively. You both make good points, and I just agree with Blaze a little more. Under different circumstances, I would agree with you. Plus, I didn't really want to get into involved in this argument. So I'll just say that I don't know who I agree with more and back away.

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Edweirdo
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(9/26/02 10:37 pm)
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HappyHappy, that's Skahott, not me. (I only abuse people I know for a while. ;D)

And perhaps, Blaze, you missed my point.

Why. Are. You. Complaining? Suck. It. Up.

Oh, and then:

Perhaps they wanted to do this to PD0 from the start? PERHAPS BECAUSE THEY THOUGHT "OH COOL, A ANIME FPSER. NO ONE HAS DONE THAT BEFORE. HEY, PERFECT DARK WOULD MAKE A GREAT ANIME! THIS IS GENIOUS!" AND PERHAPS YOU JUST MADE THIS TOPIC BECAUSE YOUR MR. BLAIS (HAHA MORE WITTY) HEDGEHOG.

And I'll quote you when I say this:

Suck it up like a man.


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Edited by: Edweirdo at: 9/26/02 10:44:06 pm
NeroMan
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(9/26/02 11:01 pm)
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This thread has stopped being a debate and turned into an arguement. That is stupid. If I were king, I would lock it.

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BlazeHedgehog
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(9/27/02 12:32 am)
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But there's plenty of evidence suggesting that it "wasn't always the plan".

For instance, Skahott shown the old model. There you go! She wasn't a complete anime ripoff, but she didn't look like the old Joanna Dark either. But now? She's a "me-too" anime rip.

Personally, I'm not arguing. I'm debating. I dunno about the rest.

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